angry social justice kirk
aka canon KirkMY FAVOURITE THING SINCE FEMINIST HULK
I miss the old canon Kirk. :(
People think I’m nuts for assuming the TF writers are rapists and abusers and then they go and laud themselves in public for teaching five year olds about rape and abuse
so they’re also pedophiles basically
fuck cis men
officialsmokescreen said: …what.
I’m so horrified by these tweets and by the readers/commenters cheering for megatron and/or approving of the sexual abuse metaphor, my god. because, from the way it’s written, the comic seems meant to make you cheer for megatron while he beats SS to (near) death, showing off and glorifying his newfound power and shiny new frame, etc. And if it’s purposely a sexual metaphor …. are we supposed to be rooting for the abuser? Because absolutely nothing in the comic hints to the fact that what is going on is wrong. Sure, it’s from megatron’s pov, but there’s plenty of roundabout ways for writers to still communicate that beating people is not ok, whether you get off on violence or not, jfc. (Don’t even bring bdsm in this, it’s obviously unrelated)
I don’t know what to think. I can only hope that during said explanation (to children!) he firmly explained that None of That Is Remotely Ok. But I doubt it.
Idk, I’m hoping against hope that I read those tweets wrong. What the fuck are they thinking showing spotlight megatron to 5 year olds anyway?I know it’s not purposeful rape apologism but it sure as hell is a bad idea. Even if “megatron looks so cool and manly” while doing it. :/
I’ve thought about those tweets and I think they’re joking, no one would talk that kind of stuff to kids. He mentioned the goriest and most over-the-top examples, but he didn’t really show them. I’m quite sure that he just talked about it in general and didn’t show those things or talk about psycho-sexual subtexts… at kids.
At the Spotlight comic itself, I didn’t enjoy it too much due to being a fan of Starscream, but I don’t see all the business people get worked up about. The Spotlight is told from Megatron’s point of view, which is awesome since we rarely get a look inside the character’s heads like that. Since it is from his POV, of course he will see right what he’s doing. That’s how their relationship works in IDW, which isn’t meant to be a happy take on Transformers, they’re in war at that point. And war changes and makes people into things they weren’t. Megatron explains pretty clearly what he thinks of the beatings and thinks of them as necessary. These alien robots don’t function in same way as we do.
The writer (Nick Roche) most probably trusts his audience to be mature enough to understand what’s happening and that this is a work of fiction, portraying cybertronians.
Megatron acts as he sees is right, for his leadership and Decepticons. And yes, there’s some personal anger right there that Megatron’s acting out in a very Decepticon way, his Decepticon way. That way might be very wrong for humans to do, or many Transformers as well, but for Megatron, the leader of the Decepticons it’s right and necessary. Megatron is violent, that’s part of his character.
I didn’t like the comic at first but while writing this and reading it with more thought, I like it now. Roche was not serious with those tweets, I don’t know if there’s actual psycho-sexual subtext, but he was not serious about teaching lil kids about that.
I don’t think you understand how… propaganda of systems of oppression work. Just… “portraying Cybertronians”. That’s an argument of yours? They’re not humans, so no human values can be placed in them or interpretated from them?
And as, for instance, is proving itself now, with few expections, this fandom (and most writers) are not to be trusted.
Actually I’m happy that you responded since I’d really like to know better, I just worded my opinion and view as it is now. If you could in any way educate me and tell me exactly what things are wrong, bad and should be changed or not published at all. I’m willing to learn and even change my opinion after that.
I really like Nick Roche as an artist and his writing seems pretty good too (though I’m no way a writer myself so most things slip straight past my head) so if anyone (you?) would spare their time to tell me where I’m wrong, mis-informed or unknowingly ignorant, I’d be thankful.
Yeah, lets be clear first that I have no love for any of the IDW writers, at least as far as the G1 work is concerned. None of them, with the exception of Ms. Scott, have shown to possess any skill to think outside their cocoon of privilege and that makes their work dangerous. (Also, I find no entertainment in the way they portray G1 Cybertronians, since they utilize pretty much no post-85 concepts and neither properly work out anything of their own ideas. Seriously, anything post-85 is either dead, non-existent, or synonymous for cannibalism. But that’s an aside.)
I haven’t technically read Spotlight: Megatron. I haven’t read a lot of IDW in a long time for reasons of continued disgust, though I keep up to date in other ways (you know, making sure things haven’t gotten better and I can start reading again), like whole pages being reblogged on Tumblr. I don’t like the no-women setup coupled with blatant female erasure. I don’t like the cissexist approach of the female identity or the other manifestations of transmisogyny. I don’t like the utter irrelevance of non-Cybertronian characters. I don’t like the Eurocentric world-building. I don’t like the entire too late, too litte, too GWCM context of the one confirmed same-gender couple. I don’t like that nearly all holoforms are able-bodied white men, and the rest as close to that as possible. I don’t like the continued whitened up and machoed up narrative of Spike Witwicky. I don’t like the blatant character favoritism and the terrible cast choices and the way the pressure for violence is affected by this. And I could go on like that, but I think this explains it.
All of the above are symptoms of the writers having a one-dimensional view on life, resulting from their high social position which they and people like them have the power to regurgitate over and over. Just because they are “mature” doesn’t mean jackshit. Did maturity solve the “No Girls Allowed” mentality rampant in the franchise? Did maturity solve the preference for white and white-passing faces in the franchise? And hey, maturity, what’s its role in the increasingly more feminine presentation of Starscream’s archetype pan-franchise while the character is getting more and more prone to be the target of violence and humiliation.
And what’s the fact they’re Cybertronians and not humans done for all that? What, the moment you don’t write and read about humans, suddenly all human biases magically disappear? Would you use Transformers fiction as your proof of that? Do I need to go into detail about why “portraying Cybertronians” is a ridiculous argument?
If you are in a system-bound position of power, you are pretty much inherently not mature and assuming otherwise worsens the situation. Roche’s joke* was terrible and his motivations disgusting. He himself isn’t trustworthy to begin with and him not knowing that or understanding the consequences are part of his privilege. That he would be naive is a reason for his action, not an excuse and not a defense.
*At the moment of finishing this post, I see that Roche has backpedaled on his “joke”, meaning that right now rather than approving of sexual violence and abuse, he doesn’t, though he still made jokes about it and we have yet to see if he’s actually learned from this case, and he has no respect whatsoever for the female portion of the fanbase, because it’s no coincidence he targeted a terrible fandom mentality that is female-coded but has never bothered to do so with terrible fandom mentalities that are male-coded or gender-nonspecific.
Regarding the first part, they’ve been including characters from other things for a while, there’s BW characters and Starscream got a body that’s very close to his Armada one. So they’re slowly taking in more of Transformers as a whole, which I like too. While I can see what’s the beef with Furman, I’m a bit confused why you see all other writers in such negative light too. But that’s not the point.
You’re not bothering me at all, and welcome!
Yeah, I don’t think there’ll be any problem with my adding some consensual gore to the Soundwave x Starscream request. (Basically, the idea with the pairing meme is that it’s a series of short fics around set prompts - first kiss, dark!fic, AU, etc. - so I have a lot of leeway, and should be able to fit gore into at least one of those categories. I’ll check with the original requester to make sure they have no problem with it, but otherwise, cool!)
I have to warn you, though, I am working my way through pairing meme requests verrrrry sloooooowly. It may be ages before I reach that particular pair, so I don’t want you to feel disappointed if it takes a long time.
Thanks for your interest in my fic!
I’m glad to hear my suggestion is okay for you. And don’t worry about satisfying me and my OTP-wants anytime soon, you’re doing the fics for free and on your own time so honestly don’t have any pressure. I just took interest after seeing some of your stuff and then finding out you have that meme going on.
Speaking of which, I like the break me meme and some other things you write even I I don’t ship the pairings because your writing is so interesting!
someone on facebook posted this intending it to be negative but instead it’s INCREDIBLE. go girl scouts
The Decepticons were forced to surrender on the following day. And it was all Starscream’s fault.
Decepticon on hold music(ppl who know Silja Line might find it familiar :) )